Curse

Priest Of Sin · Feb 26, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

1. Allow us to display "Hero and Fiece Hero" titles
2. Seperate "match ups"
2a. Rank 1-3 players only face rank 1-3 players
2b. Rank 4-7 players only face rank 4-7 players
2c. Rank 8 and up players only face rank 8 and up players.
3. Tweak fame system.
3a. Fame is no longer awarded just to the winning party, you gain 1/2 a fame point for participating. NOTE: No fame is rewarded for resigning.
3b. spikes are not rewarded, Players can no longer take more than 700 damage within the timeframe of 2 seconds. (similar to the Guild Lord's amulet, because everyone and their uncle can do a spike. WTB Skill?)
3c. Players recieve an armor penalty whenever their ghostly hero or priest dies
4. Ranking is not permitted in a PvP arena.
4a. Excessive ranking results in the emote being disabled for X seconds.
5. Emotes are disabled in PvP arenas.
6. Heroes are completely removed from Heroes Ascent.
6a. Henchman are also removed from Heroes Ascent.
7. Update "Room 1" battle
7a. new skills for the "unworthy"
7b. All "Unworthy" are equipped with a superior vigor.

Most probably aren't the best ideas, but i'm just thinking out-loud.

Kool Pajamas · Feb 26, 2007, 07:18 AM // 07:18

What if you have a team with both rank 2 and rank 8 players in it?

Bankai · Feb 26, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

The only things that bother me are 2b and 2c. It will be a huge pain in the butt to be rank 8, since there aren't an extreme load of them and I think you'll be without an opponent quite a lot.

I especially like 3b, I've been thinking about a similar mechanism myself as well.

So what's the "Hero and fiece hero" titles?

Thomas.knbk · Feb 26, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

I don't like the seperate match ups. First, there are not enough players playing this game to make this work (the waiting times would be insane), and rank 3 wouldn't mean anything because you need to do to get it is own some clueless people.
Spikes shouldn't be removed. It's a part of guild wars, and it's been there for 2 years. Even if it's not perfect now is too late to fix it.
I'm not sure why all this hate to ranks.

Dobermann · Feb 26, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bankai

The only things that bother me are 2b and 2c. It will be a huge pain in the butt to be rank 8, since there aren't an extreme load of them and I think you'll be without an opponent quite a lot.

Nope, i dont care about rank, ive seen the leetest ever HoH heroes get beaten by lower ranked teams, rank means jack all to me, to me it jsut gives me a cool glowy wolf (man i want my tiger, only 300 odd fame to r7

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I dont see why ppol have a problem wid higher ranked ppol, serves u right (jsut as it does me) for not to PvP sooner and getting ranked then, altho bit hard to get ranked with the nubways that were run back in ToPK days (Yes IWAY'ers im talking about you) im r6, not the best HA'er not the worst, wont be the best wont be the worst, make HA 8v8 and then i got no problems with it

Dobermann · Feb 26, 2007, 02:41 PM // 14:41

next psot, one in qwuick this time so i can see ur ridiculous idea's.

4a if rank emote is being spammed wthey should be reported for hacking, its only aloud every 30 seconds.

3a, RUBBISH!!!!!!!!!!! so basicaly u and sum nub mates can go into a match /resign and get fame for that? trash, fame is earnt not given (altho to all iwayers out there u dont deserve it)

3b, LMAO, uve never done HA have you?? Spike is brilliant, it teaches people to co-operate, and co-ordination, msot spikes now (with 6vs6) are crud, tehre are a few spikes that make mince meat of most teams, and i having spiked and balanced, smited my rank am a very good spiker and very good at darn near everything, too remove spikes now would be ridiculous

my wrists huirting ill come back and edit this post after a while, gonna go bash some teams up in HA

seraphite86 · Feb 26, 2007, 02:53 PM // 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin

1.
2a. Rank 1-3 players only face rank 1-3 players
2b. Rank 4-7 players only face rank 4-7 players
2c. Rank 8 and up players only face rank 8 and up players.

Than that would the eliminate the whole 'element of suprise' in HA.

Priest Of Sin · Feb 26, 2007, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dobermann

next psot, one in qwuick this time so i can see ur ridiculous idea's.

4a if rank emote is being spammed wthey should be reported for hacking, its only aloud every 30 seconds.

3a, RUBBISH!!!!!!!!!!! so basicaly u and sum nub mates can go into a match /resign and get fame for that? trash, fame is earnt not given (altho to all iwayers out there u dont deserve it)

3b, LMAO, uve never done HA have you?? Spike is brilliant, it teaches people to co-operate, and co-ordination, msot spikes now (with 6vs6) are crud, tehre are a few spikes that make mince meat of most teams, and i having spiked and balanced, smited my rank am a very good spiker and very good at darn near everything, too remove spikes now would be ridiculous

my wrists huirting ill come back and edit this post after a while, gonna go bash some teams up in HA

Actually, I have played HA. I play it quite a bit

But personally, I don't think Guild Wars sholud be about beating the other guy's reflexes. The game has degenerated from a well thought out balanced team (see also: 8v8), to a stupid, button mahsing frag-fest, where you hit maybe 3 keys the whole match because you just did 940 damage to some poor SoB.

HawkofStorms · Feb 26, 2007, 05:02 PM // 17:02

1st off this is very much a "few ideas" thread, which isn't allowed.

1 - I totally agree with.
2 - Bad idea. People have already pointed out wait times. Also, fame isn't really a good moniter of skill. There would still be unbalanced matchups (IWAYs who got rank 8 meeting somebody who ran balanced to get rank 8, etc).
3a - bad idea. Rewards time played over skill. Fame rewards people who win, which should corolate to skill (but due to some cheap builds, doesn't). This will just reward who plays HA the most often.
3b - You've never played with a spike done by a top ranked team. Spikes are not just button mashes. After doing one with a top 200 ranked guild, I was quite impressed by the precision of thier build.
3c - Eh, could be imba, could not. Depends how much of a bonus.
4-5 - if you get ticked off at people ranking at you, then you need to take a deep breath and relax. There are always going to be people calling you "stuipid n00bs" after they beat you. If you let them get to you, it is your own fault.
6 - I kinda see the reasoning for this, except that when a player leaves or disconnects, they are replaced with a henchmen. Might as well allow henchmen and heros to be allowed in the party anyway.
7 - I can't give an opinion since your idea isn't very specific.

master_of_puppets · Feb 26, 2007, 10:52 PM // 22:52

1-meh, doesnt really matter
2-EXTREMELY TERRIBLE IDEA. Why the hell should noobs now have it so easy now when before r0's had to go against r10+ top20 guild teams. not to mention they wont learn anything winning against other crap teams. and what if you have a team with mixed ranks? and what if there are no available teams in the same group?
3a-just stupid, completely stupid
3b-im not too fond of stuff like bloodspike either but it does take some skill to play, not just random button mashing
3c-meh w/e
4-if by ranking u mean showing rank title is not allowed then thats awful idea
5-no point
6-getting rid of heroway was a very good thing but i think its ok to have the option of taking 1,2 NPC's. sometimes there are very few ppl on or u really dont want to find another person. doesnt really matter anyway 95% of teams are full-human teams so its fine
7-no point

Now here are the real changes needed for HA:

-8v8 re-installed
-kill count removed from broken tower and courtyard and holding re-installed (1 old style, 1 new style)
-song of concentration no longer works on ghostly hero
-shadow prison, savannah heat, water snares and all that crap nerfed
-murderball made less stupid
-capture points made less stupid